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Removing iPod nano scratches with Brasso - followup questions

Written on 9/30/2005

Wow, now I know what it’s like to be famous on the internet for a day. My little iPod nano and Brasso story has led so far to over 800,000 hits from about 40,000 unique IP’s. Part of those high hits was my hit-tastic home page design, which I fixed, and the number of embedded pics in the story, which is part of the appeal.

I never expected this interest in my little evening project. But, this does validate one of the founding principles of my little weblog, which is to only talk about things that I’ve actually experienced. There are plenty of bloggers out there linking to news stories and such, but I wanted to be a little different. So, thanks for reading about my little technical adventures.

At last count I was at 143 comments. I wanted to sort through these and give you a quick summary of the questions and answers.

Process questions

  • Do you have to use iKlear?
  • No. I used iKlear to clean the iPod before and after. I like iKlear, it’s a great general-purpose cleaner for any sort of glass or plastic, and it’s especially good on my 36″ Sony WEGA screen. But, it is not required for this project.
  • Do you have to use Brasso?
    • I used Brasso and it worked. I have photos to prove it. If you used something else and it worked make sure you post about it on your own weblog. Sharing is good!
  • Do you have to use a microfiber cloth?
    • No. I used it because I had a couple laying around from my iKlear kits.

      “as” Says:
      September 28th, 2005 at 4:49 pm e
      You wrote: “My theory was that the microfiber was a lot softer, I didn’t want the cotton to make more scratches.”

      Wow did you get that backwards!

      Microfiber is VERY abrasive. It’s polyester fibers split in half to create a very sharp edge on each fiber.

      It’s well known that if you routinely use microfiber to clean wood you will eventually ‘haze’ it. Basically tons of miniscule scratches.

      OTOH that’s propably why this worked so well. The microfiber polished off the scratches. That’s also why the 3G ipod didn’t come out so well. You used cotton there.

  • Does Brasso work on the back?
    • Yes, I used it on the 3G iPod back and it worked well. The nano back is no different.
  • Does Brasso fill in the scratches?
    • No, it’s a mild abrasive, therefore I think it’s best as a way to get your scratched nano back into tip-top shape before putting it in a case. I wouldn’t plan on using Brasso every day, eventually you would wear through the plastic. (Although I think this would take many, many cleanings to do.)
  • Will it remove engraving?
    • No.
  • Did you use the brasso on the screen too, or just the body?
    • On the screen and the body. As you can see, the screen is perfectly scratch-free now.
  • Can I clean the clickwheel?
    • Yes, I think you can safely clean the clickwheel. I’d recommend using a cloth that is pre-soaked with Brasso, using as little as you can. I think as long as your cloth isn’t sopping wet with Brasso you’ll be fine. I wasn’t particularly careful on mine, I just did what I just said and used light pressure. Since the clickwheel isn’t smooth, I’m not sure if Brasso will be able to remove any sort of deep gouge.
  • Will it void the warranty?
    • Well, scratches aren’t covered under warranty, so I’m sure that scratch removal doesn’t void it. I’m not qualified to answer that question from an official or legal perspective though. I’m sure if you accidentally poured Brasso into the dock connector and it stopped working that Apple would suspect something. Third party vendors such as Radtech, who makes Ice Creme cleaner for the iPod, don’t mention any warranty issues on their site.

    Brasso, Brasso, Brasso, all about Brasso!

    Can I use [foo] instead of Brasso?

    • Toothpaste
    • Haven’t tried it. Appears to be a bad idea, since there are so many different formulations.
  • Bar Keeper’s friend
    • Haven’t tried it.
  • Simichrome
    • I haven’t tried it, but it appears promising.
  • Jeweler’s Rouge
    • Haven’t tried it. A poster says:

      “I like Jewler’s rouge (comes in dif colours to inidcate the abbrasive quality) with a little help from my dremel. Alas, the big box hardware stores never seem to carry it so brasso is lot easier to find, just a little more elbow grease to apply.

  • http://www.noscratch.com/novus/
    • Recommended by a couple of posters. Looks very promising.

    Would Brasso work on a/an:

      General tip: Getting Brasso into a small gap of anything is probably a bad idea, since it dries to a hard wax and might be hard to remove. So, put a small amount of Brasso on a cloth or cotton ball, and work it in on a surface without a gap before attacking anything with a gap like a clickwheel or PSP button.

    • iBook
    • Yes. (Not on the screen. I use iKlear on my PowerBook screen. Anyone know a way to repair a scratched laptop screen?
  • Older iPod
    • Yes.
  • Powerbook (Titanium)
    • The old Titanium Powerbooks had a paint chipping issue, and Brasso might make that worse. For TiBooks I’d say check out http://www.tipaint.com
  • Powerbook (Aluminum)
    • No. Brasso says not to use it on Aluminum. They make a silver polish called Silvo that you could try. I haven’t tried it. Personally, I clean my Aluminum Powerbook with iKlear and don’t have any scratches after many months of hard use. What are you people doing to your gadgets? :)
  • Cell phone
    • Probably. I haven’t tried it. Cell phones tend to have lots of crevices and buttons and gaps, so it seems like it would be easy to get Brasso into the guts of your phone, which would be Bad.
  • PSP
    • Probably. I haven’t tried it. Feel free to send me a PSP and I will. :)

    Poster reported success/failure

    Note: As always, take random, mostly anonymous user comments with a grain of salt.

    Sean Sperte says: Well I just went out and bought some Brasso, tried it on my white iPod nano, and it seemed to dye it a bit yellowish — plus, it didn’t really take care of all the scratches. And trust me, I worked on it for a looooooong time. Did you have similiar results with the older iPod model you tried it on?

    So my experience was less than desired. Now I’m just waiting for the invisible shield I just applied to dry and we’ll see what happens. I’ll probably end up just not caring and treating the nano as I do my cell phone — just throw it around. Thanks a lot, Brasso.

    Anyone want to buy a slightly used, yellowish, 4GB iPod nano?

    Frank Says: BE CAREFUL. “$4 Can of Brasso” means effectively that you have to buy a NEW can. Don’t go using an older, fermented, can. It becomes more and more abrasive the longer it sits, as Brasso will seperate. Just, be careful. I ruined a 1G iPod with Brasso once, and I have never forgiven myself.

    Jas Says: Just a quick note DON’T use toothpaste!! I used it last Friday when I noticed a small mark on my Nano screen. It left fine scratches!
    Conclusion; toothpaste is good for removing permanent marker from hard surfaces but causes fine scratches on Nanos! You can also use it to clean your teeth as well by the way (!)

    SWAFA Says: Thank You, Thank You, Thank You! I just tried the Brasso trick on my 4GB white Nano and it worked like a charm. My iPod had sufficient scratches that pictures on the display were beginning to look distorted. I had an old can of Brasso under the kitchen sink and figured I’d give it a shot. I shook the can well to make sure it wasn’t separated. I put a small amount on a paper towel and tested a small corner of my iPod to make sure the Brasso would not make the problem worse. It didn’t I used a sparing Brasso to dry and checked my progress. Each time I checked the scratches were less and less visible until they were gone. The same treatment worked on the back and my iPod is back to ‘just out of the package’ condition. Thanks again for the great tip!!

    random informative tips

    • how to take a picture of the nano
    • UME Says: Just a tip on your camera (donno if anyone else have pointed this out).

      To “manually” focus your digicam, press on the ‘Shoot’ button (the button that you press to take pictures) just lightly, not all the way in. That should make your camera to adjust focus to whatever is in the middle of its view. If you can’t focus the camera on a shiny surface (like your nano) because it’s focusing on the reflection, do the “half-push” on your ’shoot’ button and let it focus on something more solid-looking that is at about the same distance as the real object that you want to photograph (like your nano). After the camera focuses on another object that’s about the same distance as the object that you want to take pictures of, don’t let go of your finger from the ’shoot’ button (nor press it futher–it’ll make the camera to take a pic) and take a picture of your nano. You can apply this “half-push” technique to other things, too. Hope it helped.

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    338 Comments

    1. Comment by Trent:

      will it work with a white ipod nano?

      9/30/2005 @ 9:32 pm
    2. Comment by twid:

      Trent,

      It should, one reader above reports success. Another reader says that Brasso “yellowed” his nano, which I find questionable.

      9/30/2005 @ 9:45 pm
    3. Comment by Chris:

      one thing
      yes I know that iKlear is not needed to clean your ipod when removing brasso
      but what should I use instead, can I use a wet microfiber cloth or something specific that will take off the Brasso after appied?

      10/1/2005 @ 1:30 pm
    4. Comment by bryan:

      i tried it. but i didn’t notice any noticeable improvements. guess ill try displex.

      10/1/2005 @ 4:31 pm
    5. Comment by The Shades:

      In short, I tried it on a U2 version ipod which was used for display at Best Buy now it looks near new.
      also used it on a digital cam display and the face of a digital clock. both worked great.

      10/1/2005 @ 5:22 pm
    6. Comment by Nate:

      Hey there,

      I had heard about using this on 1st/2nd/3rd/4th gen iPods in the past, but never got around to trying it, but after reading this story, I…well, just read on ;).

      I tried this on my 20GB 4th Gen. iPod, and it worked wonders on my screen. It wasn’t in bad/horrible shape in the first place, but after using Brasso on it, it looked brand new. I also tried it out on the back of the iPod, but I didn’t rub it in long enough to get a brand new look.

      Thanks for the tip!
      Nate

      10/1/2005 @ 6:19 pm
    7. Comment by wil waldon:

      Awesome idea with the brasso, my friends nano is all scratched and he tried it. Worked like a charm!

      10/1/2005 @ 6:51 pm
    8. Comment by rishi:

      well, i dont have a nano as yet, but i have ipod photo 40 gb, i wanted to ask , as u said it dries and become HARD WAX , how wud i remove that wax, buy scratching it?? or will it come off by a nail polish remover/spirit (out of the blues LOL) , and also, how thick a layer shud be applied to let dry and has anyone tried on the white surface, without turning it yellow? as someone suggested that it wud make it go yellow??? please help.. thanks

      rishi

      10/2/2005 @ 4:23 am
    9. Comment by Mactavish:

      Odd the comments on microfiber, they sell them to clean camera lenses, so how can they be considered “abrasive”? If so you got a scoop on the film industry and a class action lawsuit.

      10/2/2005 @ 9:20 am
    10. Comment by Hopesome:

      关于iPod nano容易刮花的问题,解决方案是购买Invisible Shield (这意味着你要多花20来美元)或者听听Tod Dailey的高见 —-Pingback from Podcast Podium 播客宝典 http://www.hopesome.com

      10/2/2005 @ 7:10 pm
    11. Comment by John C. Randolph:

      Jas,

      Toothpastes vary quite a bit in the coarseness of the abrasives they contain. Stay away from anything labeled as extra-whitening or the like.

      -jcr

      10/2/2005 @ 8:53 pm
    12. Comment by bill edwards:

      The makers of Brasso also make Silvo, a silver polish. This is less abrasive than Brasso, to avoid removing silver plate. It is worth a try for final finishing, as is jeweler’s rouge with a Dremel. I took a fairly deep scratch out of a plastic lense with jeweler’s rouge and dremel (ending up covered in red in the process).

      10/3/2005 @ 8:48 am
    13. Comment by theChief:

      what about the stuff that printed on the back and on the clickwheel? like the logo and the >> etc… aren’t they affected in the process?

      thanks

      10/3/2005 @ 9:37 am
    14. Comment by rishi:

      well after reading this forum i tried to work with brasso on my ipod photo 40 gig , on the silver portion at the back, it “cleaned” it, as much as cud water! , no scratch removal at all , in the front on the white portion it did NOTHING at all…. n no, i did not use a kept over bottle, i brought a new one from the store few mins before working it out……….hard luck may be

      cyaz
      rishi

      10/3/2005 @ 11:52 am
    15. Comment by matt:

      ok everything worked great and i applied my inivisble shield and working great but 1 question - in the shield the edges of the clickwheel are appearing whitish fog, is that the Brasso or just the protector? it looks like the brasso

      10/3/2005 @ 1:11 pm
    16. Comment by Nicolas:

      Are there different types of Brasso? The can of Brasso I could find does not look exactly as the one displayed on the previous post.

      10/3/2005 @ 2:09 pm
    17. Comment by Trevor:

      Hi,

      I see that your solution worked great therefore I am going to pick up some Brasso tomorrow. You said you first take some time applieing it and rubbing it over the scratches until they start to dissapear. You also metioned letting it sit a little after that to dry but then you mentioned that it drys hard wax and is extrememly to remove. Please clarify what you do after rubbing the brasso over the scratches (well the whole ipod nano since mine looks just like yours in your before picture).

      Thanks!!! I cant wait to try this I bought an invisable sheild thing so hopefully this will restore my ipod to its full luster or something close to it.

      10/4/2005 @ 5:36 pm
    18. Comment by cristopher:

      thanks! it worked great on my ipod nano!!

      one question, whats the “aluminium” powerbook? the 1.67GHz? because i need to remove many scratches on my 1.67 ghz powerbook! so should i use iklear?

      10/5/2005 @ 6:33 am
    19. Comment by Paul:

      So will it work on a mini? Ive looked and there’s nothing to be said. If someone who has tried this would post that’d be great.
      Thanks!

      10/5/2005 @ 1:46 pm
    20. Comment by drew:

      I used Brasso and it didnt seem to work. It definitely ‘lightened’ the scratches, but they didnt disappear. Also, I used a polishing cloth for my violin and it seemed to scratch it further. WHy arent the scratches disapearing? And will rubbing alchohol work to clean the dried brasso off?

      10/5/2005 @ 7:35 pm
    21. Comment by Paul V:

      How does Brasso, or any other cleaner for that matter, go with the minute gap in the frant cover and click wheel? doesn’t the cleaners get in there?

      10/5/2005 @ 9:31 pm
    22. Comment by Paul:

      Ok so I’ve given up on trying to find out if this will work on an iPod mini… so here’s a simpler quetion: What is the mettalic surface of the mini made of? If the answer is alluminum then I won’t be able to use brasso, not sure why but it says so on the bottle, but if its simply “brushed” steel or stainless then I would assu,e it was safe.
      Please post back!

      *PS:please read before you post their are many questions which have already been answered that people keep re-posting, like Paul V’s question, (the answer by the way is No, the Brasso will not get stuck in the cliwheel UNLESS you use to much, In which case I would buy a new iPod cause you probably just screwed all the elctronics inside.

      10/6/2005 @ 12:25 pm
    23. Comment by Eric:

      I used the brass on my white nano last night. I was primarily concerened with the scratches in the screen. I used an old t-shirt, put a dollop of brass on it, and started with the screen. It definately lightened the scratches, I wouldn’t say they are completely gone, but it looks at least 10x better. I’ve very happy with the results.

      10/6/2005 @ 12:52 pm
    24. Comment by Tim:

      Hey
      I recently bought my white 4GB iPod Nano, and already it got scratched up, just by putting it in my pocket like everyone else! And just some random ones that came out of complete nowhere haha… but I got a quick question, do you just continiously rub in the Brasso until its completely gone and then use a cottonswab or something to wipe the remains off, and how much Brasso should you use? I dont own iKlear or anything cool like that but I plan on picking a can of Brasso up very soon cause these scratches piss me off alot haha. I would also try it out on the side or corner just to make sure it wouldnt like mess up the whole iPod.

      Thanks!

      10/6/2005 @ 4:47 pm
    25. Comment by Josh:

      Hello. I am getting a nano next week. I have an important question. Does anyone know if Apple’s Official Ipod Nano Tubes cover the screen? Thanks!

      10/7/2005 @ 5:39 pm
    26. Comment by ...:

      i wonder if car polish will work…

      10/8/2005 @ 9:07 am
    27. Comment by Wyatt:

      Wow, I’m astonished. I used a microfibre cleaning cloth as mentioned before, a noticed a slight fading of scratches after working the Brasso in for 10 minutes. I found a super-absorbant microfibre towel laying around and decided to experiment with. After covering up the clickwheel with some masking tape, I soaked an area of the towel with Brasso and then placed the face of my black 4GB nano on it. Leaving the towel stationary, I rubbed the nano into the Brasso with rapid back and forth motions. After 100 rapid motions, I had an ipod that had nearly 70% of the scratches gone. The only problem I had with both methods was that there were many very fine scratches replacing the larger, ugly ones. This is, however, a sacrifice I’m willing to make for a better looking nano. Thanks for the solution to my nano woes!

      10/8/2005 @ 7:32 pm
    28. Comment by alex:

      hey. i just tried my nano yesterday and it just made millions of small circular scratches. and i just read the guys post on top of mine. todd why didnt u warn us that big scratches will be traded with smaller scratches? my nano didnt have THAT much scratches so it wasnt worth making 100 small scratches. And my click wheel is now gray. i noticed that in todd’s pics that his were grayish too but i thought it was just the lighting. now i have a gray black ipod.

      does anyone know how to remove smaller scratches?
      plz email me at eliteaw@yahoo.com

      10/9/2005 @ 12:24 pm
    29. Comment by twid:

      Alex, Wyatt:

      It seems to me that the two of you are pressing way too hard. You need to just use slow, gentle motions. There are no small scratches on mine.

      10/9/2005 @ 1:22 pm
    30. Comment by steve jobs:

      i used a stainless steel cleaner on my 20 gig with a color screen and i didnt have many scratches at all but it was slightly blemished it didnt do anything on the back other than clean it but then i said what the heck and tried it on the front i didnt use much but the difference was noticable the scratches werent gone but they were faded good enough for me. Now you can only see scratches when looking at it under a light a certain angle

      10/10/2005 @ 6:27 am
    31. Comment by flares:

      I didn’t have any Brasso handy, so popped to my local car spares shop and bought a tube of Autosol paste. No it’s not a Haemorrhoid cream, but a metal polish. The guy in the shop assured me it would work the same as Brasso and was good on all plastics.

      I took the risk and my black Nano came out like new. The tube cost me £2.99

      10/10/2005 @ 8:00 am
    32. Comment by Wyatt:

      I probably was using too much pressure. I’ll try it once more when I have the time to slowly, gently rub the scratches away.

      10/10/2005 @ 2:41 pm
    33. Comment by Andrew:

      one of the pictures on the original page showed the iPod Nano back side become yellowish. Is this a lighting problem, or is this real, cause I do not want an iPod nano with a yellow backside

      10/11/2005 @ 4:36 pm
    34. Comment by soapy:

      Wow, a lot of very dim people out there…

      If the Brasso or whatever hasn’t fully removed all the scrathes, just keep going. It’s a bit like posting that you couldn’t fill a glass with water, because when you stopped to look, it was only half full. And as for the people moaning that the big scratches are going, but there are smaller scratches, as the man says, take it easy, and try not to gouge the face. You are carefully polishing the scratches out, not drilling a new hole. Then re-read part one of this comment.

      10/12/2005 @ 5:07 am
    35. Comment by alex:

      Just out of curiousity…does letting the brasso dry do anything? Is it necessary? I’m just wondering as to whether or not I should take the time to let it dry or not because the actual scratch removal takes place with the buffing. Thanks.

      10/14/2005 @ 11:05 pm
    36. Comment by Al:

      Where, in Toronto, Canada, can i find Brasso? I have been trying to look for it for the past few days and Wal-Mart does not sell it. Is there something else I can use that’s around the same price?

      10/16/2005 @ 1:29 pm
    37. Comment by Al:

      I would apreciate any help.

      10/16/2005 @ 1:30 pm
    38. Comment by sean:

      Hey Twid. I just went to HomeDepot and bought CLR metal clear, micro fibre, and brasso

      I applied it about less than 10 minutes…and there was no imporovement at all.

      how much brasso do i have to pour on the micro fibre towel? a lot?

      I applied just small amount…

      Am i doing something wrong? Help me Twid.

      10/16/2005 @ 4:30 pm
    39. Comment by sean:

      Also, my nano has more smaller tiny scratches than before.

      Pressure was very little. just used my hands’ weight..

      I think im on wrong method.

      Guide me people…

      please email me or reply Gf4ever@gmail.com

      10/16/2005 @ 4:36 pm
    40. Comment by sean:

      Now I applied it 20 minutes and waited 10 minutes to dry off.

      There are still scratches.

      Why??

      10/16/2005 @ 6:02 pm
    41. Comment by timetowaste:

      Well, I was a bit hesitant about this but tried it anyway. I just finished multiple cleanings with brasso and many cotton rounds. I still have scratches on my nano. I must say that it is better but not that much. Could I have done something wrong? Or is it an different issue? Until thier is a fool proof way of getting rid of the scratches my nano is hitting the shelf.

      10/17/2005 @ 4:35 pm
    42. Comment by Max:

      Hey, would you mind making instructions (like in steps) of what to do? ie, how long do you wait before rubbing the brasso off of the nano?

      10/17/2005 @ 5:31 pm
    43. Comment by JJ:

      Just used it on a 4GB White Nano, I didnt remove the scratches like the black nano seems to do when you use brasso, but it does look better, worth my $4 dollars.

      10/18/2005 @ 5:01 pm
    44. Comment by Mr Purple:

      My white nano scratched beause i put it in my blazer (school jacket) pocket, which has a zip. Now the screen looks fuzzy. Was wondering if anyone could put up pictures of this method on the white nano before I commit (mine was a birthday present so it’s difficult.. ya get me?) thanks for putting your nano on the block for the sake of all humanity todd..!

      10/20/2005 @ 12:01 pm
    45. Comment by jay:

      ok ok ive had my blk 4GB nano for a lil over 2-3 weeks… and i havent bought a case because ive been waiting for the iskin to come out… but in the mean while i havent had any cases and the sticker sticky thing that was on the screen and wheel to protect it jus came off.. so ive been putting it in my pocket and i droped it a couple.. ok ok maybe a few times… and there are very deep scratchs on it.. if i do clean my nano will it really fade the scratchs away?… and by any chance.. if my ipod do break by a accidental drop. is it possible to turn it into apple and try to get it replace???

      can any one help me out here?

      oo yeah one more question… how much brasso should i put on the iklear? i dont want it to mess up my wheel…

      anyone with any feedback please email me back at josephjonr@gmail.com

      thx

      10/20/2005 @ 5:54 pm
    46. Comment by Mr Purple:

      The scratches on my nano fuzz up the screen. This limits the use of the player, and because I have only had it for three days, only ever keeping it in my pocket or my hand, shouldn’t ths be replaced or refunded by Apple? If your use of the nano is limited due to the scratching, you should be able to return it to Apple.

      10/21/2005 @ 1:44 am
    47. Comment by Chad:

      http://www.toolblast.com/ipodnano

      I made my own tutorial on how to make a casing/cover to protect your iPod for free. It worked for me, maybe it’ll work for you!

      10/21/2005 @ 4:06 pm
    48. Comment by The New Yorker:

      Boy, what a bunch of morons out there!

      Either you can’t read or you can’t follow instructions…or BOTH. The author has clearly described the steps he took, the time it took him, and the products he used in his experiment. He has also included pictures that he took before, after, and during his experiment. Why do some of you keep asking the same questions over and over?

      Before you post (and before you go trying this for yourself), go to the beginning of the page and thoroughly READ his weblog again. Study the pictures and if you plan on conducting the same experiment, try to follow the same steps he took. Keep in mind that twid (aka Todd Dailey) conducted this experiment and he used his iPods at his own risk. For those of you complaining that you did this and that and you didn’t see the same results or your iPod looks worse, well what do you want? This is not an OFFICIAL procedure endorsed by Apple or anyone else. This was an experiment that one man decided to conduct and share with the rest of us. I for one am glad that someone had the balls to do something like this. Also check out this other webpage from arstechnica for another sort of iPod nano experiment:
      http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nano.ars/1

      Of special note is page 3; the nano Stress Test where the authors conduct an experiment to see how much torture the nano can take, and then perform an “autopsy” afterwards, giving us all an insight into what makes the nano tick. Pretty impressive that someone would do that in the name of science (or really strong curiosity).

      And a note for those of you asking where they can find Brasso, or Silvo, or iKlear, or microfiber cleaning cloths…if you haven’t already READ the above posts and gotten sufficient advice, then go Google them to find out where you can buy them instead of asking over and over on this blog.

      Finally, the real question is not how long to leave Brasso on, or how hard to rub it in, or will it turn your white iPod yellow, or will this work on my grandmother’s progressive bifocal lenses. The real question (and one that has already been asked many times over) is why Apple would market a product that was so susceptible to scratching without conducting their own experiments first. Obviously they have now realized their mistake but unless they are planning to correct their design flaw in future releases of the nano (or maybe even the new video iPod), there are still going to be a lot of scratched up iPods out there. Whether you decide to try the Brasso method or not is up to you, but stop whining about Todd’s pictures, or lack of information, or whatever the hell else you’re whining about. Nobody asked him to do what he did, and nobody is asking you to do it either. He did it and it worked for HIM. If you decide to do the same thing, hopefully it will work for you too, but it’s still at your own risk.

      Another product that MIGHT be really helpful in protecting the nano is the “Invisible Shield” which is touted on their website as the ULTIMATE screen protector. I just ordered mine today ($19.95 with free shipping) and it seems promising. I believe several other posters on here have mentioned the Invisible Shield in their posts. I couldn’t say how well it works since I just ordered it, but according to their website (www.theinvisibleshield.com) it appears to really protect against nicks and scratches with a lifetime replacement guarantee. There’s even a demo video that shows the shield in action. All I can say is I was impressed enough to order it for myself and until it arrives, I won’t be taking my brand new white iPod nano out of its protective plastic sticker that it came wrapped in.

      Good luck to everyone.

      10/21/2005 @ 4:14 pm
    49. Comment by Ryan:

      the only reason i found out about the brasso is
      because i saw it on Atack Of The Show on G4.
      i just tryed it on my PSP this stuff kicks a$$

      10/22/2005 @ 4:39 pm
    50. Comment by Ryan:

      i agree with The New Yorker. and you usd a lot of big words

      10/22/2005 @ 4:42 pm
    51. Comment by greg:

      I tried it twice and it didn’t work. Used my own microfiber cloth. Still a lot of scratches.

      So I went out and spent $20 on iKlear polish + microfiber… [shows you how much I love my nano :-( ]

      And I guess 3rd time’s a charm! I rubbed in the brasso for about 20 minutes, (using the iKlear microfiber cloth) and I concentrated mainly on the screen area, but I scrubbed the area under the click wheel too. I let it dry for about 5 hours (went out to dinner). I came back from dinner and sprayed some iKlear polish onto the microfiber and used that to wipe off the brasso and polish it.

      RESULTS:
      The bottom half of my Ipod almost looks the same. Still scratched. But the screen area… looks about 50% - 75% better! I can still see scratches, but I swear it was a LOT worse before. So the brasso is worked on the area that I concentrated on (screen area).

      CONCLUSION:
      Brasso is VERY weak. I think I’ll probably have to rub it in a few more times before it looks brand new again. Also, because it is so weak, you’ll never have to worry about melting your ipod. I dont know how Todd fixed his Ipod after only ONE try, but maybe its because he took better care of his Ipod and mine is more scratched up. Or maybe not, I dont know….

      10/23/2005 @ 7:20 am
    52. Comment by Chad:

      To “The New Yorker”:

      Very nice post. I agree that people shouldn’t complain if their nano gets screwed up after using Brasso. Think about it people, Brasso is basically melting down layers of the plastic on your Nano in order to take away the scratches. As Todd says, it should only be your 2ND CHANCE attempt, only try it once, otherwise you’ll wear the plastic down too far lol. Also, notice how Todd used a cleaner (iKlear)?? This is what cleaned off the Brasso afterwards. Just smearing Brasso on the plastic and rubbing it in will leave it yellow and ugly, you need to use a cleaner, some sort of eye glasses cleaner to get rid of the Brasso completely afterwards.

      Finally, I just want to point out that protection methods are essential after buying your Nano. And what I find really funny is that none of the official protection methods out there protect your screen! For example, the iPod Nano Tubes are useless… they just turn your nano into a pretty color and add better grip, your screen? Well… Apple decided to cut a nice little hole for the screen to pop through. How does that prevent scratching? It doesnt.

      I would suggest, IF you’re getting an iPod Tube, to use my plastic pouch tutorial in order to have plastic protecting the screen, and then put your tube OVERTOP of that.

      http://www.toolblast.com/ipodnano shows you how.

      Once you do that, everything should be easy after that. I’ve heard about those InvisibleShield stickers as well… but for $20 they seem a pretty high price for protective stickers. And my experience with stickers (I used to use them on my palm pilot), is that you get air bubbles, you can see tiny dots in some of the cheaper stickers, and when you take the sticker off to replace it, you sometimes can get marks left behind or glue stuck to your ipod. Maybe for $20, these InvisibleShield stickers don’t do that. If anyone buys them, make sure to post here about your experience :-)

      Thanks.

      -Chad

      10/23/2005 @ 1:23 pm
    53. Comment by Preston:

      I felt like a kid on Christmas morning when I first walked out of the Mac Store with my brand new nano sealed tightly in the coolest packaging I’ve ever seen. The feeling of joy quickly turned to disappointment in the parking lot when I pulled off the protective laminate, got a fingerprint on the screen, and introduced a bunch of scratches by polishing it with my shirt. How was my IPod gonna look in a year, or even a month…? I jumped on this Brasso cure (i was nervous the first time) and it worked GREAT! It totally restored that new feeling I had when I first opened my nano. I would do it over and over again without hesitation. I even used it on my GPS, my dive watch, and cell phone display–all shine like new. If you read the fine print on the Brasso can, plastic watch crystals are an application listed as “other”. So if you are worried about your investment, I recommend using brasso on something cheaper made of acrylic or plastic before you shine up your nano,
      (To avoid having to polish your ipod over and over, get the OTTERBOX protective case in December. I have one for my Mini and it saved its life many times)

      Thanks,
      Preston

      10/24/2005 @ 1:15 am
    54. Comment by bluedude:

      the masking tape over the click wheel is a good idea. wish i wouldve done thta out of safetys sake alone but i used Q-tips for the more delicate areas and it worked fine
      thanks for the idea
      Ben

      10/24/2005 @ 3:56 pm
    55. Comment by Barb:

      I just got my Ipod Video and scratched it getting it set up! I was just sick because there was a big scratch right on the viewing screen so I have been all over the internet looking for a solution. I decided to try the toothpaste before buying Brasso and it worked! I used regular Crest mint gel- no whiteners or tartar control- just plain crest mint gel and my big scratch is gone! I then used a PDA screen protector for the screen and will not take it off until they come out with a case of some kind that protects the screen from scratches! Imagine paying $400 and getting something that scratches so easy. What a bummer but the video IPOD sure is worth the money otherwise!

      10/25/2005 @ 3:36 pm
    56. Comment by bebegrl:

      are there two kinds of brasso? or is there onlee one kind so i kno wut to buy. and if there are more than one, which one do i buy??? i need this fast!

      10/25/2005 @ 4:51 pm
    57. Comment by Fred:

      I hear Apple is in talks to buy out the Brasso company….

      Just kidding people. My black JVC Sirius Radio screen scratched just from being in my pocket 2 times with nothing else in it. I don’t see anyone bitching about JVC. Why are people so quick to bash Apple?

      10/26/2005 @ 11:14 am
    58. Comment by Alek:

      Hmm.. brasso… not too sure about the long term effects from that one. I’d recommend Autosol instead.. but very little amounts. Thanks for the researching tho todd - rather you than me! :)

      10/27/2005 @ 12:14 pm
    59. Comment by Helen:

      Hey! dude.. my ipodnano looks just like urs.( the scratched one) i have black one, and looks sooo S*CKIE!! My friends told me to use Windex( which,DUH! didnt work!) Even tho that, I STILL LOVE IT SOO MUCH!! THANK YOU FOR TELLING US A WAY…

      P.S : does wal-mart has brasso??
      (thats only place i can go !!)

      10/27/2005 @ 7:04 pm
    60. Comment by Adrian Saldanha:

      I tried this on me black 4gig nano, and it “almost” worked the first time. I created very many little scraches and some bigger ones were still there.

      I used my own REALLY soft microfiber cloth (i have like 5, one is from psp, and it sucks, and other is from glasses, it’s ok, and one from this random place and it’s really soft :D)

      Now, this polish is pretty expensive isn’t it?

      (Oh yah I ordered the InvisibleShield and it hasn’t come after 2 days… How long did’t take you)

      And about worrying about the braso thing, i dropped to much on the nano, and all over everything, but it still works very well (at nano quality) (actualy it got more responsive, dunno, I think the buttons just are easier to press, that could be just time though).

      I’ll try Q-tips.

      10/28/2005 @ 5:03 pm
    61. Comment by Adrian Saldanha:

      ^^ by polish I mean the iKlear stuff. Would glass cleaner work as well?

      Guess doesn’t hurt to try :D

      (Just read the above posts about not using old brasso. Well my brasso may be so old it doesn’t work as well, because mines about 12 - 14 years old (my mom bought it before I was born, and she used it once and she kept it since lol, I took a double take at my nano when I read above :S)

      10/28/2005 @ 5:13 pm
    62. Comment by George Coller:

      Brasso worked. Ironically my nano was in perfect condition for a month (i didn’t remove the plastic cover) while I waited for my case to come in the mail. I didn’t read the case instructions properly and scratched the heck out of my nano the first time I tried sliding it in, including two huge deep vertical scratches from accross the screen! How depressing. I wrote a pretty angry letter to the company and to their credit they forwarded the link to the Brasso blog.

      Took me maybe an hour of rubbing but got rid of most of the scratches. Doesn’t take much brasso but does take a lot of rubbing. I had much more success rubbing with the grain of the scratches first to get them out. Then lighter in circles to polish afterwards. I’d say I got it to about 90% of new, which is good enough. At least the screen looks new again.

      10/29/2005 @ 8:09 am
    63. Comment by jas:

      Got scratches that happened too easily. just take it back. arent they replacing anything with a problem? or is that just cracked screens?
      j

      10/29/2005 @ 2:29 pm
    64. Comment by jas:

      Also whats the thoughts on Brasso Vs Silvo? silvo will need more time / elbow grease as its less abrasive? anyone had sucess with Silvo?
      j

      10/29/2005 @ 2:30 pm
    65. Comment by Kaosar:

      hi, twid, i am bit concerned about using the brasso that i got off ebay as it is hard to get where i live, but i noticed one thing which i would like you to tell me, that it on the “experiment” you used 2 ipod nano, one look quire mirror like, and one looks a dull mirror. how do i know that you never used the second ipod nano to show everyone how good it it cos i think you many of tried it on one ipod nano but shown it on another ipod nano which could of been new out of the packet. but if i am wrong please say and is it ok if you can show me the pics of both ipod nano together please.
      thank you

      10/31/2005 @ 2:49 am
    66. Comment by twid:

      Kaosar,

      I’m bored with answering the “is this real?” question. If you don’t trust me, don’t try it. I would have to be an idiot to expose myself to legal trouble by faking this. As you can see if you scroll up, many people have had success with this method. If trying it melts your iPod, though, don’t complain to me. I’m just tried something and posted about it on my personal weblog. I’m not Apple, and I’m not taking responsibility for anything you do.

      10/31/2005 @ 8:07 am
    67. Comment by Kaosar:

      cheers mate, love the enthusiasm and your sense of humour but hey comon i need to check now i don’t wanna jus totally ruin my ipod nano now do i, but heh don’t feel ticked off yh me was jus asking and making sure, i’ll tell u how it goes thru ok cheer mate

      10/31/2005 @ 9:48 am
    68. Comment by astrangeone:

      Cool. I’ve read about brasso helping all manner of plastic things get their shine back. Used it on my game gear (ancient piece of technology) because I’m gifting it to a little cousin. It works like a charm, but smells and looks awful.

      I can’t believe I paid four dollars for a can of what amounts to gasoline and sand.

      For those of you who live in Canada, your best bet to find Brasso is Home Depot or Walmart. (The can I got is from Home Depot, and it’s a tiny can…only holding 142 millilitres.) As for the microfiber cloths get them from your local eye-doctor……they are better quality than the crap that comes bundled with things. (The cloth I have is bundled with the PSP….it’s lousy and probably cost Sony a total of 3 cents.)

      11/1/2005 @ 6:24 am
    69. Comment by jaferrando:

      Well, don’t want to get the fire burning under my feet, but about the softness of the Nano… I’ve had it for three weeks now, frequent use, but allways in a cover and in my jacket poket (alone, no keys, coins, or else). Now it shows scratches on the screen, clear to eye view at 60cm distance (my arms length). These were provoked by… the earphones! The metal grid of the earphones while rubbing on the screen marked the screen leaving a blurr that distorts the image. The black covers kept falling continuously.
      Well, we all sure have differente experiences, but mine tells me that this toy is really soft for a carry around gadget.

      On the other hand. Does anyone know of an alternative to Brasso that could be found in Spain?

      11/4/2005 @ 12:29 am
    70. Comment by Helen:

      After using brasso.. can we just use water to clean it?(like on paper towel and wipe it) and then like use dried paper towel to dry it? if not, what can we use beside the iklear

      11/5/2005 @ 9:31 pm
    71. Comment by Kris:

      Hey Twid or Todd I jus wanted to ask..When do you know you are done with the Brasso? Like when you are rubbing it on the Nano, when do you know you need to stop? For me there are still streak marks of my cloth going up and down and they wont go away. Does that mean I have to keep rubbing it? How do you know when you are done?

      11/6/2005 @ 2:30 pm
    72. Comment by Jeff:

      Twid,
      I want to commend you for putting your Nano’s on the line. That is all.

      11/6/2005 @ 8:37 pm
    73. Comment by Leo:

      Hi, I’m from Germany and so brasso is not that popular for me. I’ve found one with the following name: RECKITT & COLMAN
      BRASSO Metal Polish, 150 ml.
      Is it the right one?

      11/7/2005 @ 7:53 am
    74. Comment by jono:

      will silvio work if i use it on my white ipod nano beacuse im really desperate to get the scratches off my ipod nano?

      11/7/2005 @ 1:09 pm
    75. Comment by Kris:

      Sumbody please answer the above Q’s I asked.

      I also think that I have scratched my whole Ipod because there seemed to be streaks everywhere. But I can’t tell if they are just the dried liquid stuff from Brasso or real scratches. But I’m not blaming nobody so I’m just noting this and if anybody help?

      11/7/2005 @ 7:47 pm
    76. Comment by Marthe:

      I’m wondering what Brasso exactly is? What is it regularly used for? I live outside the US, and we don’t have brasso here, but I thought I’d try something similar.. ?

      11/9/2005 @ 12:32 pm
    77. Comment by Neil:

      Where can I find Brasso in the United States?

      11/11/2005 @ 1:30 pm
    78. Comment by Joe:

      I have a scratched 30 gig video iPod and I have treated it like a baby. I guess I’ll have to try the Brasso because Apple won’t let me return it. They give free ingraving through their website and then use that as an excuse to accept no returns. They are no help with this problem at all. This is not a small problem with some of the new iPods. It’s widespread. I saw the 30 gig and 60 gig video iPods on display at BestBuy today. Both were scratched up terribly. The other MP3 players on display were not scratched. I tried rubbing the others directly with my fingernail and did not scratch them. I tried a small section on the iPod and very easily left scratches. Thanks for the Brasso trick to help those of us screwed directly by Apple.

      11/11/2005 @ 2:24 pm
    79. Comment by Richard:

      I wonder if anyone in British Columbia, Canada, knows where to get Brasso?

      11/12/2005 @ 11:25 am
    80. Comment by brittaney:

      i don’t know how u delete songs on my ipod nano

      11/12/2005 @ 12:10 pm
    81. Comment by Nebz:

      You can get Brasso in canada at wal-mart or canadian tire. I live in sask…….
      Brittaney, use the instruction booklet if u really can’t figure out how to press delete on your computer…..

      11/12/2005 @ 2:18 pm
    82. Comment by Nelly:

      Hey!

      I tried it on my 4 day old ipod 5th gen (video) and it kinda worked on the screen and da clickwheel scratches kinda all got off…. But my screen still has around 50 scratches… Would it disappear if i was to try again… Cause i’d really like a new looking ipod 5th gen…and how long would it take me…etc…lyk around another 1 hour of soft scrubbing around my ipod?

      REPLY ASAP PLS!!!!!!!!

      11/13/2005 @ 3:41 am
    83. Comment by adum:

      thank you twid for scrificing you ipod for ours
      i just want to no if there are cheaper methods than using iklear polisher

      11/13/2005 @ 10:29 am
    84. Comment by El Nerd:

      hey uh i tried this on my ipod nano, and it didnt do much…
      i did it for like 30 minutes and just barely removed scratches…
      it got grime out but otherwise just made it lose its luster…
      i dont know i just am frustrated with my ipod nano

      apple isnt so great…

      11/14/2005 @ 7:09 pm
    85. Comment by Niven Brooks:

      I’m okay with the minor scratching my nano has sustained from regular use (putting the nano down on a gritty desk, for example), but wanted to protect it from getting squashed in my laptop bag. I have protected my nano from travel-related bruises by making a simple case using an old CD jewel case and a cardboard cutout. I’m not interested in making my nano any bigger, so the wallet-type cases are out. And the other “carriers” are too soft for this purpose. The CD jewel case is perfect.

      If you’d like to see it, check out my November 14th, 2005 posting at http://nivenbrooks.blogspot.com.

      11/14/2005 @ 7:34 pm
    86. Comment by HELP!:

      i tried using brasso to remove the small scratches on my nano..and instead..even more visible scratches were being created..what shld i do?? shld i carry on to use the brasso to slowly try to remove the scratches..or what?

      11/16/2005 @ 6:47 am
    87. Comment by Fair:

      I’m currently testing if this does in fact work, hopefully after a few hours my extremely scratched iPod will look new once again. The condition I bought mine in was not good at all, because it belonged to someone else. Keeping my fingers crossed.

      11/17/2005 @ 9:34 pm
    88. Comment by C4:

      I tried the Brasso repair method on my 4 week old Black Nano and to be honest, I was not impressed with the results. On the chrome back cover it put a plethora of fine scratches that were not there before the repair. The front about the same. I used a Japanese micro-fiber cloth for precision lens and followed all instructions to the “T”.

      I love this player but I am dissapointed with how easily this thing scratches! I think I ‘ll pay my local Apple Store a visit soon, and see what can they do for me…

      11/18/2005 @ 5:19 pm
    89. Comment by khaled from egypt:

      SHALL I USE THE BRASSO ONLY ?

      11/19/2005 @ 12:08 am
    90. Comment by Afraid of trying...:

      Does Brasso works on the screen, body, clickwheel, metal back etc. of my iPod video (black)? Will I have to do anything else after cleaning it with Brasso?

      Thanks? (=

      11/19/2005 @ 1:46 am
    91. Comment by khaled from egypt:

      yes

      11/19/2005 @ 4:34 am
    92. Comment by Afraid of trying...:

      Hey everyone, do I just wait for the brasso to dry up by itself or use another clean dry cloth to wipe it off?

      Thanks (=

      11/19/2005 @ 7:30 am
    93. Comment by tim:

      i just got my ipod and i want to get rid of my scratches but im afraid and nervous should i really do it and can you explain the steps more carefully i didnt really get how to remove the scratches with brasso

      11/19/2005 @ 5:31 pm
    94. Comment by jobobike:

      Brasso worked great on removing scratches from my black nano. It took about six times to remove the scratches on the screen and around the scroll wheel. I did have some difficulty getting the “Menu” button to work again. I just continued to press the different scroll wheel commands and it seemed to work itself out. I was careful not to saturate the scroll wheel but I think I was using too much pressure in rubbing out the scratches with an cloth used for cleaning glasses.
      Thanks for the Brasso tip. I now have the Belkin Folio case and am satisfied with it’s protection.

      11/19/2005 @ 7:04 pm
    95. Comment by josh:

      Anyone knows how to remove some white streaks that appeared on the metal back of my ipod while i cleaned it with a soft damp cloth? :[

      11/19/2005 @ 10:58 pm
    96. Comment by anonymous:

      I got an 5th generation iPod (the one with video) yesterday, and it’s already very scrathced. Do you think brasso will fix it?

      11/20/2005 @ 11:48 am
    97. Comment by HELLLP!:

      I taped a cotton ball on my drill bit and used my DeWalt to “Buff” my IPod screen/case; Long story short the bit kept penetrating the cotton and ended up putting deeper and deeper scatches & gouges in the screen/case…will brasso fix this?

      11/20/2005 @ 5:14 pm
    98. Comment by Will:

      I have a question. When you got brasso on, or polished, the middle button, did your middle button turn all foggy? Right now, everytime I try to wipe it off, it just gets worse. The edges are kinda going back to normal on the middle button, is it maybe condensation of some sort? Or did it stain the middle button. Could the middle button be made of different material as the rest? It never did this on my 4G, cause I knew about this method a year back. I tried it on my 5G, and it made A LOT of swirl marks. I took pictures almost exactly like yours, and my pictures came out the same, it showed no scratches. Under my flourescent lamp, it shows all of those little scratches. Thanks.

      11/20/2005 @ 8:43 pm
    99. Comment by The New Yorker:

      Seriously, some of you people shouldn’t even be allowed to have an ipod! Stop asking these same stupid questions over and over. If you’re afraid to use Brasso…then DO NOT USE IT. If you decide to use Brasso, or whatever other method to remove scratches, then DO SO AT YOUR OWN RISK.

      11/20/2005 @ 10:15 pm
    100. Comment by The New Yorker:

      And to the poster who taped a cotton ball on to your drill bit to “buff” your ipod…give us a break! Did you honestly expect such a hairbrained scheme to work without consquences? Or are you just F***ing around and fishing for a response like this? Some of these people are beyond the help of Brasso. Maybe a short stint in a sanitarium would better suit them.

      11/20/2005 @ 10:21 pm
    101. Comment by Will:

      Don’t be an ass New Yorker. Its totally uneccesary. Anyways, I figured out my swirl mark problem, I just went over it for like an hour, using barely any pressure at all. Still wondering if anyone is getting the foggy select middle button like me. Just wondering.

      11/21/2005 @ 12:12 pm
    102. Comment by The New Yorker:

      To “Will”: my comment was NOT directed towards you…read some of the posts above yours. People need to actually READ these other comments first before either attempting to use Brasso, or before asking some of the SAME QUESTIONS, OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. The purpose of THIS particular forum was to ask follow up questions to Todd Dailey (or other users who have tried the Brasso method) to get answers that ARE NOT ALREADY POSTED. Anyone who can read can clearly see that a majority of these questions have already been asked before many times over.

      This forum is a follow up to Todd’s original weblog posting regarding the use of Brasso as an OPTION for removing scratches from your ipod nano (or 5G ipod, or any other Apple product with the same polycarbonate casing). If you go back and properly READ his original posting http://todd.dailey.info/archives/2005/09/27/restore-your-ipod-nano-to-new-condition-with-a-4-can-of-brasso/ you will see that a majority (if not all) of these questions that keep being asked were already answered. He gave very clear and detailed instructions, including pictures, and if anyone decides to follow his lead, they do so at their own risk.

      Clearly there are many people out there who may not have already done their own research and they feel the need to keep on asking the same tired old questions on here. So if THAT makes me an ass as you so delicately put it, then so be it. Better a smart ass than a stupid ass!

      11/21/2005 @ 9:21 pm
    103. Comment by Steve:

      I used cut’n'polish on my PSP when it was dropped and had scratchers all over it. It work great, so you can try this too.

      11/22/2005 @ 9:30 pm
    104. Comment by C4:

      Update: I took my 4 week old iPod Nano back to the Apple store where I bought it from (Along with original box/packing materials and sale receipt) and asked to speak to a manager. The manager promptly came put to meet me from the back of the store and she was extremely gracious. I told her that I love the my Nano but was very annoyed with the scratchability of the product. She liked the fact that I had brought it back with all packing materials neatly put back in its box. Keep in mind I was WAY PAST the return period which is 14 days and $25.00 re-stocking fee. I told her I wanted a brand new Nano replacement in a sealed box. She agreed. She went back to the back of the store and a few minutes later she came back with a brand new Nano in its sealed box :) She did the exchange at the register and not a penny was exchanged!

      I haven’t yet opened my new Nano as I am waiting for my new Powersupport Crystal clear jacket case that includes a set of transparent film skins for double layered protection. My new Nano will not leave its factory box until I get the new case/clear skins.

      It seems to me Apple is accepting exchanges on iPod Nanos on a case-by-case basis. If you are polity but complain firmly about your dissapointment with the scratches, you may get a brand new Nano in its box. I think Apple given the looming class action lawsuit in the horizon is walking a fine line with these players and providing exchanges to those who complain the loudest. Don’t take my word for it though. I haven’t seen or hear any “official” memos from Apple and your degree of success in returning a scratched Nano for an exchange may largely depend on the Apple store manager. These folks have decision making power for sure.

      If you have a scratched Nano and you have kept all original packing materials/box and have your original sales receipt, I would take it back to the Apple store where you bought it from and ask for a goodwill exchange on a new one.

      I don’t know if folks that ordered their Nanos online from Apple or purchased them from other retailers other than Apple stores, will have the same degree of success.

      My recommendation is that if you have a local Apple store where you live, it is much better to purchase your Apple products in person. It seems to me buying from the Apple store directly gives you much more leverage should problems arise with the product.

      I am very happy with Apple’s response to my concern with the Nano and feel that they stood behind their product.

      11/25/2005 @ 6:07 pm
    105. Comment by Q:

      I notice that Todd hasnt responded in forever. I can see him now throwing his arms above his head and…… hehehe

      Some really good suggestions here, and have a focused scratch on my Palm Pilot VII screen. I am anxious to try it out and see if it enhances the clarity of the screen. I have thought it over, and should it not work, I will not go throughout the rest of the screen until I am 100% sure that it works. As with any cleaner - you should try experimenting on an INCONSPICUOUS location first to see if it works. THEN go throughout the rest of the product if it works.

      Long sentence shorter - test it first on ONE scratch, and if youre happy with it…..go man! Go! :)

      -Q-

      11/26/2005 @ 11:45 am
    106. Comment by MarkyJ:

      To help those reading through wondering if they should follow the advice - I have done this too and it works.

      I am in Australia and found Brasso at a local shop - so it isn’t hard to find here. I also bought a packet of cotten ‘makeup removers’ which are circular and about 4cm diameter.

      I put a little Brasso onto a cotten wipe and rubbed fairly firmly in many random directions for around 2 mintues. I then wiped off the Brasso with another clean cotten wipe until it was dry. I then lightly wiped with a very slightly damp ‘chux’ (surface cloth) and then dried by rubbing on my tracksuit pants (cotton). Not too scientific, huh.

      The first few times didn’t seem to make much difference since I was only rubbing very lightly. I got more adventurous and rubbed more firmly and saw the benefit. To ensure I got a nice finish I rubbed very softly for a minute at the end.

      I ended up doing this process about 6 or 7 times for the front and it came up almost scratch free. I had several patterns of scratches, and almost all are now gone and the screen looks ‘almost new’. No yellowing and no visible ‘fine scratches’. I know I could spend even more time to get it scratch free, but this is good enough for what I had in mind.

      I think some people can be too fussy about the results they expect. I agree this is a fundamental problem with Apple’s choice of surface material.

      I would like to thank twid for taking the chance, putting up the instructions and then taking a lot of heat and suspicion. This sort of page is what makes the Internet an awesome tool for information interchange when big corporates don’t want to get involved. So, to the critics: go easy or go away.

      11/26/2005 @ 8:57 pm
    107. Comment by Mark L:

      I have just purchesed a 60gb black ipod video. I have had it only a week. I had a couple of surface scratches not to bad so I cleaned it with moblie phone scratch remover & a normal duster. What a idiot to expect it to get rid of the few scratches & not create a million new ones. I am going to return to the apple shop & say it has a battery life issue & get a new one. Then when that one scratches I will try the brasso trick. It must be the most scatchable object ever made & In refective black. I could have been worse it could have happen after the 2 week period. Are there any video ipod cases yet other than the silly socks that problably do more harm than good. What A joke battery life is also crap if only there was another option other than a ipod.

      11/28/2005 @ 2:39 am
    108. Comment by Andrew S:

      About cleaning the scratches, you said I had to rub it for 30 minutes or something of that time. Do I apply Brasso and just keep rubbing it on my iPod? for 30 min.? And what are the signs that tells me Brasso is working? Is it the cotton fiber getting all dirty?

      11/28/2005 @ 8:10 pm
    109. Comment by Dave:

      for people who STILL don’t believe the brasso thing works, it does! It’s not going to be an instant result though. less than a week after getting my 60g ipod, i got a lovely deep scratch down the face of the screen by removing it or inserting it into the ‘protective’ case I bought for it. Kind ironic that the case I bought to protect it was the very thing that gave it a few deep scratches! This was VERY irritating since the scratches kinda distorted the pixels behind them and really stood out cos of the photos and the colour, even when the display was just playing a song! Anyways, 3 deep scratches and much frustration later, I stumbled upon this site and the brasso solution. I went out to Walmart and bought a bottle of brasso for $2.68 and prayed that it wouldn’t totally destroy my ipod screen. After the recommended 20 minutes, there was a lot of improvement but the scratches were still very present. So I spent the next 2 hours sitting in front of the tv watching basketball, hockey, and sportscenter while routinely applying and rubbing brasso to the plastic side of my ipod with a soft t-shirt, occasionally clearing it to check the scratch removal progress. After 2 and a half hours last night, and another 2 hours tonight bonding with sports on my tv (which I probably would have done anyway…!), the screen is literally perfect! in fact, the whole front of the ipod looks brand spankin new but for a couple of tiny chips from dropping it on the driveway that are on the white part and can only be seen if you know where to look and look VERY closely. For those afraid of rubbing clean through the screen, it’s very thick and nearly 5 hours of brasso-ing barely got 1% through it. In summary, if you’re prepared to spend a good amount of time with it, then you can get it back to perfection. If you really love your ipod and are prepared to put the time in, then you’ll be good as gold. However, it doesn’t seem to have the same result on the aluminum on the back. While it does make it very shiney it doesn’t seem to have the same effect that it does on the plastic. Still, it IS the back, and the scratches on the front are the ones that really stand out and distort the screen. How often do you look at the back anyways? Most of my friends are asked me why I got a new ipod since my other one worked fine and I’d only had it a couple of months, and they flip out when I tell them it’s the same one and that I just polished it with brasso! Go brasso!
      Like everyone else here, i’m super ticked that I dropped $400 plus tax on my ipod 60g and had it scratch so easily! So delicate it’s ridiculous! Not impressed with that at all. Apple had better be working on that or I just bought my first and last ipod, possibly even apple product!

      11/30/2005 @ 11:32 pm
    110. Comment by Mike:

      I just wanted to bring this to you. Brasso saved my life, hehe. At least my iPod. It didn’t take out the worst scratches but it fixed the screen, and that what’s matters. Overall I’m very pleased with the result.

      12/2/2005 @ 7:40 am
    111. Comment by Sandy mellis:

      Would the T Cut I use to remove scratches on my car do the same job?

      12/2/2005 @ 7:44 am
    112. Comment by justin:

      do you think this would work on a psp

      12/4/2005 @ 4:59 pm
    113. Comment by Andrew S:

      ive done everything you said and did but i still see some of my bigger scracthes and if i shine it some of the smaller scratches

      12/4/2005 @ 9:16 pm
    114. Comment by DJ:

      Jas: I used Silvo, I agree I think it does take a little more work, a couple of applications etc.. but it worked fine for me. :)

      Thanks Todd

      12/6/2005 @ 5:05 pm
    115. Comment by Greg:

      Can I use a Paper Towl to apply this?

      12/7/2005 @ 8:09 pm
    116. Comment by Greg:

      Can I use a Paper Towel To apply this??

      12/7/2005 @ 8:10 pm
    117. Comment by Tim:

      Don’t use paper towels for this task. They are quite abrasive and may mark your iPod! Recommend using a fine cloth suitable for lens and glasses cleaning or equivalent?

      Thanks

      Tim

      12/8/2005 @ 3:58 am
    118. Comment by Jose Rosario:

      What other stuff works jsut as good as Brasso that you can find around the house?

      12/9/2005 @ 11:31 am
    119. Comment by Eddie:

      i have a black nano just like u…. and i wanted to try using brasso on it…. but i m worred that i only have a few scratches on it…. and the brasso might just make it worse… does it matter how many scratches r on the nano… like., do u need to have a lot of scratches on it before u use brasso…. comment back plez…. danx…

      12/10/2005 @ 6:55 am
    120. Comment by Josh:

      I got an ipod nano for my birthday and today my brother put some songs on it i didn’t want on my ipod. so my question is; How do you delete songs and add them?

      12/10/2005 @ 2:55 pm
    121. Comment by Curious:

      Will “Bar-Keepers Friend” work?

      12/10/2005 @ 11:12 pm
    122. Comment by Curious:

      Josh:

      What I do is delete them from my Libary, and re-connect the iPod. It loads the libary onto it (which should be empty,) and ta-da! The songs you dont want are gone.

      12/11/2005 @ 8:20 am
    123. Comment by Spencer:

      Hey i just got done polishing my iPOD. thnx for the tip. But if you want the back to look like new you can get a dremel bit that is in a round cylindrical shape that is made out of some sort of cloth. So after you get done with the brasso get all of the brasso off(this is important because otherwise it will make the back look bad) then turn the dremel on low and use the side of the bit to polish your ipod. The wipe everything off with a soft cloth and your ipod back will look like new. Oh yeah and how can i get dent out of the back of an ipod?

      12/11/2005 @ 2:45 pm
    124. Comment by Spencer:

      Oh yeah i found something when reading the article and dont use the polishing compund and the dremel polisher together cause it creates a really bad haze!

      12/11/2005 @ 2:50 pm
    125. Comment by Carl:

      I wanna thank you for this advice on the Brasso. I was skeptical at first, but after using it for a while, my black iPod 60GB was factory quality! Of course, there are those little micro scratches that are seen in bright light and upclose, but at normal viewing, it’s brand new! I’m happy that my mirror/music player is once more like new!

      12/11/2005 @ 8:02 pm
    126. Comment by SiNGH:

      hi, what colour is the mixture of brasso you all used as im from uk and i want to make sure its the same be4 i try it

      12/12/2005 @ 8:24 am
    127. Comment by Jimbo:

      Yea i just tried this and no luck, i put brasso on a piece of cloth and gently applied to my nano. I let it dry then buffed it with another piece of cloth, scratches still there, what should i try doing? I didnt use and iKlear or anything to take off the Brasso, and yes i just did buy a new can of Brasso.

      12/12/2005 @ 6:56 pm
    128. Comment by Ralph:

      This all seems great but I have a question for you iPod experts. I have been searching for an iPod case for over a week now and I was sorta leaning toward a silicone case. But recently, I’ve heard that the silicone scratches the iPod, is this true?

      12/13/2005 @ 9:15 am
    129. Comment by Grace:

      Thankyou so much for the Brasso tip! I tried it on my black nano yesterday, and it’s unbelievable! deeper scratches do take alot longer to remove but it’s well worth the time and waiting! if you don’t see noticeable results on the first try, get back to the brasso!
      My screen had deep scratches, and the first time I didn’t see any results, so I got back to it, rubbing it in for another 20 mts, results began to show! Another 20 mts and the screen was flawless!
      Once again thanks alot Todd! you made a lifesaving discovery here, it’s like proactiv for ipods!

      12/13/2005 @ 12:47 pm
    130. Comment by Jimmy Crackcorn:

      While Brasso may not be able to protect you from avian flu, it does help remove some of the minor abrasions from your Nano. I discovered this blog today and went out to Wal-Mart and bought me some. I used it for about 20 minutes on my black Nano and it removed all but the deepest scratch. I’m thinking about using it to try to whiten my teeth next since Crest is worthless, but I’m not sure I want to spend 20 minutes brushing my teeth with a cotton ball tonight.

      Oh yeah, by the way, I am President and CEO of Brasso Inc. - just to save you unscrupulous conspiracy theorists some time on looking it up….

      12/19/2005 @ 2:26 pm
    131. Comment by samusXP:

      Well, the back of my iPod Photo has several deep scratches, but it does shine much better. I’m trying it on the front now.

      12/21/2005 @ 3:42 pm
    132. Comment by aly:

      can i use the brasso on a white ipod?

      12/21/2005 @ 6:06 pm
    133. Comment by thanks:

      yeah i just got an ipod today so im really glad i havent played with it much! im on my way to get a cover tomorrow and tonight its stayin in its sock thanks i didnt know they could get so scratched

      12/25/2005 @ 8:06 pm
    134. Comment by sprogg:

      im gonna try the brasso but ? will i need i klear ?

      12/27/2005 @ 1:11 am
    135. Comment by w00t GEEK:

      Is it just a rub on rub off kinda thing then? Or do you just put it on then keep scrubbing? I’m going to work it on my black nano today. *Smiles*

      12/27/2005 @ 8:39 am
    136. Comment by Todd Dailey:

      No you dont need iklear

      12/27/2005 @ 8:42 am
    137. Comment by Ploy:

      I highly recommend the ‘tubes’ that apple makes for the nano right now. I purchased them for my nano and they fit perfectly. The only drawback is that you have to buy 5, for 30 bucks.

      12/27/2005 @ 9:59 am
    138. Comment by Nickle:

      What other Brasso substitutes are there? and where can i find brasso for sure?

      12/27/2005 @ 6:07 pm
    139. Comment by Sam:

      I also am having trouble finding Brasso.

      12/27/2005 @ 6:24 pm
    140. Comment by Squid:

      dudes check Ace Hardware store

      12/27/2005 @ 6:32 pm
    141. Comment by Dr.Smith:

      Is it possible to use some CLR? or Flitz Metal Polish?

      12/27/2005 @ 6:36 pm
    142. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      Can you use Brasso on the back of the Ipod Nano aswell

      12/28/2005 @ 5:02 am
    143. Comment by Los:

      Alright, i bought some Brasso today and tried it as soon as i got home. this is what i used:
      A 100% Cotton shirt
      and the brasso.

      Is that the wrong thing to use, and also, when i put the Brasso on my shirt, it turned yellow and when i rubbed it on the black part of my IPod Nano the yellow started toturn black!!!

      So when i was all finished, (i did it about three times), The magor scratches were gone, but the are still tons of small scratches all over the front. what should i do????

      Here’s my E-Mail lovalos@adelphia.net. i need answers!!!!!!!!

      Thank you!

      12/28/2005 @ 6:35 pm
    144. Comment by Los:

      by the way my question above was mainly for Twid, but anyone feel free to post anything about it. thanks

      12/28/2005 @ 6:44 pm
    145. Comment by Andres:

      Will Brasso work on the 5th Gen. iPod 30 GB on the clickwheel? It’s all scratched up. What else will work?
      P.S. The scratches are nail marks

      12/28/2005 @ 8:24 pm
    146. Comment by Andres:

      Oh… I’d prefer a response from someone with experience

      12/28/2005 @ 8:27 pm
    147. Comment by Ploy:

      ya it will take them right off. Apple reports that the 5th gen is made of the same stuff.

      12/29/2005 @ 1:22 pm
    148. Comment by cotftn:

      I just used Brasso on my 5G black iPod with a microfiber cloth to remove a couple scratches. The result was terrible: I now have millions of tiny scratches all over the face of my iPod. I might’ve used an older can of Brasso, though it seemed fine and I thought it was only a few months old, though. I didn’t rub for as long as some people — I probably spent 5 minutes or so as opposed to more.

      Is there anything I can/should do here?

      12/29/2005 @ 2:37 pm
    149. Comment by Seretonin:

      cotftn, I did that also. You need to make sure you rub the Brasso in thoroughly (gently, though) and then let it dry. I made the mistake of just using the brasso and trying to wipe it away immediately. That gave me tons of scratches.

      Quick question though. Anyone have problems using microfiber cloths? I used them and they said they were non-abrasive. Can’t really notice any bad results from the cloths.

      12/29/2005 @ 5:11 pm
    150. Comment by Pete Stumbeleine:

      Brasso works, ive literally just removed a massive scratch, deep off the centre of my 30GB video ipod. I was VERY sceptical about whether it would work, but thought i had nothing to lose.

      My advice is use it on a duster or a soft cloth (something really soft) and use circular motions, then use a dry cloth doing the same after and check on the progress every couple of mins. This is not a 5 minute job, just keep going until it disappears, use it all over the screen too to even it out. I think it’s taken me about 30mins or more, but it does remove scratches. ithink those who have tried and said it doesnt work, just havent used it for long enough. The scratch i had was bad, so much that when you watched video, it was all you focused on. All i have now is a few surface marks which are only visable when you tilt it in the light (then the screen is off.

      Hail Brasso!

      theplasticashtray_info at yahoo.co.uk

      12/30/2005 @ 4:43 am
    151. Comment by Pete Stumbeleine:

      & when you have finished let the brasso dry like powder and brush it off very gently. My screen looks miles better now. Surface marks yes, scratches no!

      12/30/2005 @ 5:40 am
    152. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      I got one for the screen it’s called ikear and u can get it form the apple stores in really does work but just got to be pateint with liek the brasso one

      12/30/2005 @ 11:17 am
    153. Comment by nanoano:

      Hi,
      I am feeling very optimistic about the Brasso trick, and thinking of doing it very soon…. But I just want to confirm the details of the steps (I read all the posts). So you use a soft kind of cloth (microfiber?) then you put a very small amount of Brasso (make sure its new) onto it. Then apply slowly and gently in circular motions for around 30 mins. Let dry. Then remove with iKlear (can also remove with water??). Can someone please confirm these steps for the Brasso trick?

      Thanks in advance.

      12/30/2005 @ 12:38 pm
    154. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      Think so yeah nanoano i tried it just now for 45mibns and i got soem away but i still of a annoying scratch what u can see in normail light right by the apple logo i’m gonna see if i can get rid of that

      P.S Is the Brasso Guaranted to get rid of the scratches if you spend over 30 mins doing it

      12/30/2005 @ 12:52 pm
    155. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      But check with some1 else im not 100% sure myself

      12/30/2005 @ 2:22 pm
    156. Comment by pimp:

      is this the best stuff out there

      12/30/2005 @ 2:30 pm
    157. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      I’ve tried it agian and still i got the scratches it ahsn’t affected my ipod nano in any way can somebody help me i’ve done everthing right spent and hour cleaning it

      P.S Pimp as far as i know this is the best stuff for cleaning the ipod especially for the back and that kirstin perosn called todd a sucker or sometihng she porbably did soemthing worng or didn’t read what other ppl suggested

      12/30/2005 @ 4:15 pm
    158. Comment by anonymous:

      well,

      i used it the first time, it did not work one bit. I rubbed it in and left it to dry for about 15-20 minutes and then wiped it off with a SUPER SOFT cloth and it seemed to have shown no results. am i doing something wrong?!? If anyone has or is reading this please leave a comment or any suggestions on what i should be doing. Todd made this sound so easy and no offense, i have done everything listed and it seemed unaffected. HELP ME OUT HERE!!!

      12/30/2005 @ 9:20 pm
    159. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      anonymous im in the same postion as u mate we need some1 who has done it and it was successful to help us out here

      12/31/2005 @ 2:19 am
    160. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      I’ve got Brasso it’s in a white can with red stiroes down it and red lid and it says metal polish is that the right one

      12/31/2005 @ 2:45 am
    161. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      Some1body help i’ve tried it 2 times now with the same stuff and orders that todd did it in and still nothing has happened??????

      HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      12/31/2005 @ 3:51 am
    162. Comment by Star player:

      i tried the brasso technique on my 30gb video ipod and when i finished it looked even more scratched. Is this because i used too much brasso? Did I wait not long enough to dry? Do you have to use iklear afterword? So how long do you let it dry and should i use iklear afterwords?

      12/31/2005 @ 4:44 am
    163. Comment by Ipod Nano user:

      Star mine ended up l